Jacob June 15, 2006 at 10:12 a.m.

Congrats indeed.

I worked with the Scripps folks on this launch, and let me just say this is only the beginning. Except more majorly cool Django sites from Scripps.

Justin Williams June 15, 2006 at 10:22 a.m.

I am proud to say I am from Evansville after seeing the new courier site. It rocks.

CoolGoose June 15, 2006 at 11:42 a.m.

What can i say except that i love it.

Alex Bucur.

Jay Small June 15, 2006 at 12:13 p.m.

I want "Scripps dude" business cards. :-)

Jay June 15, 2006 at 1:26 p.m.

Starting a job at Scripps in the final couple of weeks prior to this launch I have to say I've never worked with a framework that allowed me to jump in and do cool stuff *immediately*. Oh, and Jacob rules. You know. For a cat who lives in Lawrence.

__SERF__ June 15, 2006 at 9:39 p.m.

I believe they converted it to Ellington, a for pay CMS, built on top of Django.

Fun June 16, 2006 at 12:13 a.m.

For those who doubt this news:
http://courierpress.com/admin/

Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai June 16, 2006 at 4:48 a.m.

Looking at http://courierpress.com/news/2006/jun... in Firefox 1.5.0.4 on Windows the CSS is overlapping.

It works in Opera 9 beta 2 and IE 6.

JP June 16, 2006 at 8:54 a.m.

There should be more little, easy tasks: http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/Li... .

__SERF__ June 16, 2006 at 8:22 p.m.

No one is doubting the news. For your own credibility's sake, full disclosure is key. Django doesn't need these RoR'ish gimmicks.

The fact is that Django and Ellington are _NOT_ the same. Ellington is built on top of Django (like Plone is built on top of CMF) but Ellington adds value on top of Django. I'm assuming its ease of use and compatibility with the vertical newspaper portal business web-presence (hows that for a mouthful?).

Courier press announcment itself mentions that it is built using Ellington.

If Ellington and Djange are one and the same, they why are customers paying around 30,000 dollars for ellington? If they are not and a site is built using Ellington - a commercial CMS which uses Django as an underlying piece - then claims which imply that the site is built on Django alone will just hurt your credibility in the long run.

peace.

CoolGoose June 17, 2006 at 1:08 a.m.

Ellington is a CMS.
Django is a Framework.
What other stuff do you want to know. Ellington is nothing more than django with already written applications.

Alex Bucur.

Wile E. Coyote June 19, 2006 at 1:47 a.m.

But then again, Django is built with Python and uses Python and you don't see Python site claiming honor for the newspaper site launch.

I think credits should go where credit is due.

Jay Small June 19, 2006 at noon

To be clear, yes, courierpress.com runs on Ellington, which Scripps licensed from World Online.

We liked Ellington because it has a rich feature set for running, among other things, a newspaper-dot-com site. We had considered but quickly rejected an option to build our own new system, either from scratch or using a framework.

But the opportunity to work with the Django framework weighed strongly on our decision to buy Ellington. We are, in fact, building new apps now using Django that we want to run at our sites. Our corporate development team, based in Knoxville, ramped up quickly on all things Django and Python and you'll see more from that team as the months roll on.

If we had just wanted a turnkey newspaper-dot-com management system, choices were plentiful. But we wanted the management system PLUS a path to rapid application development, which is why our decision for Ellington was also a decision for Django.

jlm June 20, 2006 at 12:35 p.m.

Are you guys dealing with a newspaper feed? I thought Ellington couldn't handle feeds.

CTac June 21, 2006 at 12:46 p.m.

Looks great? Try to view it in Firefox. Having your site powered by a good tool (Django) does not automatically make it great.

JoaoJoao June 21, 2006 at 1:03 p.m.

CTac, I only use Firefox, and it really looks great here.

Jay Small June 21, 2006 at 1:24 p.m.

jlm - Yes, we either modified or custom wrote our own feed loaders from Evansville's newspaper editorial system into the Ellington database.

It's not that Ellington *can't* handle feeds, just that they're not contemplated much within Ellington. But since it works with well-known open-source databases, we can do feeds that insert there more or less as easily as we could with Oracle.